To Florus 1.68
These matters were discussed at greater length in my first work. Yet you do not speak clearly about which death you mean when you say that its body did not exist in paradise before sin, since in the books published under Marcellinus's name you acknowledged that Adam was made mortal (Augustine, On the Merits and Forgiveness of Sins 1.3–4). As for your addition that the business of marriage is a disease, that can be heard calmly if you say it only about your own parents. Perhaps you know of some hidden disease of your mother's, whom you recorded in the Confessions as having been called, to use the very word, a wine-tippler (Augustine, Confessions 9.18). But in the marriages of the saints and of all honorable people there is no disease whatsoever. Nor did the apostle allow a disease as a remedy when, through respect for marriage, he protected the people of the Church from the disease of fornication (compare 1 Corinthians 7:2). Near the end of my first book I show how completely that meaning wipes out both your effrontery and your doctrine. I also explained it throughout the whole body of that reply as the occasion arose (1 Corinthians 7:2).
Latin
In primo enim opere latius disputata sunt. Quamvis nec tu dilucide loquaris, quam mortem intellegi velis, cuius corpus dicis in paradiso non fuisse ante peccatum; quia in libris, quos ad Marcellini nomen edidisti, mortalem Adam factum fuisse professus es [n147] . Quod vero adiungis morbum esse negotium nuptiarum, leniter audiri potest, si hoc solum de tuis parentibus dicas. Conscius enim forte esse potes matris tuae morbi alicuius occulti, quam in libris Confessionis, ut ipso verbo utar, meribibulam vocatam esse signasti [n148] . Ceterum in sanctorum connubio, et in omnium honestorum, nullus omnino morbus est. Quia nec Apostolus morbum pro remedio concessit, cum per reverentiam nuptia m a morbo fornicationis, Ecclesiae homines muniebat; qui sensus quomodo et frontem tuam et dogma penitus eraserit, primi voluminis mei prope ultima parte monstratur; quod et in toto ipsius responsionis corpore, prout locorum opportunitas attulit, explicatum est.
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Julian’s six preserved books to Florus, quoted section by section in Augustine’s unfinished reply. Augustine’s refutations are omitted. Latin of Julian’s words is on each section.
Julian’s own books do not survive as a separate manuscript. English follows his words as Augustine quotes them in the Unfinished Work Against Julian. Augustine’s replies are omitted. We do not restore a Julian text independent of Augustine.
Witnesses
- Copy-text Augustine, Unfinished Work Against Julian (Latin · Julian’s words as quoted, Books 1–6)
- Checked print Augustinus.it Latin of the Unfinished Work (Latin · Same work)
- Checked print Migne PL 45 (Latin · Hard cases)
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