To Florus 1.17
Writing to the man whose devotion to his books astonishes him, occupied as that man is with the hardships of military service, he reports that Alypius brought him some sheets headed: 'Passages from a book Augustine wrote, against which I have excerpted a few things from some books.' Augustine continues: 'Here I see that the person who sent these writings to Your Eminence wanted to excerpt them from books unknown to me, in order, as I suppose, to obtain a quicker reply and not postpone your urgent request. When I considered what books these might be, I supposed they were those Julian mentions in the letter he sent to Rome, a copy of which reached me at the same time. There he says: “They even say that the marriages now taking place were not instituted by God. This can be read in Augustine's book, which I have just answered in four little books.”' After these words Augustine adds in his own voice: 'I believe these passages were excerpted from those little books. It might therefore have been better for me to devote my attention to refuting and disproving the whole work he set out in four volumes, except that I too was unwilling to delay my reply, just as you did not delay sending the writings that required an answer' (Augustine, On Marriage and Concupiscence 2.2). Here, then, he shows perfectly clearly that he suspects those excerpts were hastily collected from my work. He does not know the complete books, yet dares to say that he could have answered them.
Latin
Nam scribens ad eum, quem miratur studiosum esse librorum suorum, cum sit militiae sudoribus occupatus, indicat ab Alypio chartulas ad se fuisse delatas, quae ita superscriptae essent: Capitula de libro Augustini quem scripsit, contra quae de libris pauca decerpsi. Hic video eum, qui tuae Praestantiae ista scripta direxit, de nescio quibus libris ea, causa, quantum existimo, celerioris responsionis, ne tuam differret instantiam, voluisse decerpere. Qui autem sint isti libri cum cogitarem, eos esse arbitratus sum, quorum mentionem Iulianus facit in epistola quam Romam misit, cuius exemplum simul ad me usque pervenit. Ibi quippe ait: Dicunt etiam istas, quae modo aguntur, nuptias a Deo institutas non fuisse, quod in libro Augustini legitur, contra quem ego modo quattuor libellis respondi. Et post haec verba infert iterum suis sermonibus: Credo ex his libellis ista decerpta sunt; unde melius fortasse fuerat, ut universo ipsi operi eius, quod quattuor voluminibus explicavit, refellendo et redarguendo nostra elaboraret intentio; nisi et ego responsionem differre noluissem; sicut nec tu transmissionem scriptorum, quibus respondendum est, distulisti [n13] . Ostendit ergo hic apertissime excerpta illa suspicari se de opere meo tumultuarie fuisse collecta; integros autem ignorare libros, quibus tamen audet se dicere respondere potuisse.
About this text
Julian’s six preserved books to Florus, quoted section by section in Augustine’s unfinished reply. Augustine’s refutations are omitted. Latin of Julian’s words is on each section.
Julian’s own books do not survive as a separate manuscript. English follows his words as Augustine quotes them in the Unfinished Work Against Julian. Augustine’s replies are omitted. We do not restore a Julian text independent of Augustine.
Witnesses
- Copy-text Augustine, Unfinished Work Against Julian (Latin · Julian’s words as quoted, Books 1–6)
- Checked print Augustinus.it Latin of the Unfinished Work (Latin · Same work)
- Checked print Migne PL 45 (Latin · Hard cases)
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