Arnobius — Against the Nations 2.13

Arnobius · Against the Nations · c. 300

Meanwhile, O you who admire and are stunned by the decrees of the learned and of philosophy, do you not count it most unjust to ride down and mock us as if we say stupid and brutish things, when you yourselves are found saying the same or such things as you laugh to hear said of us? I am not speaking with those scattered through the byways of the sects who have made this and that party by diversity of opinions: I call you who follow Mercury, Plato, and Pythagoras, and you others who are of one mind and walk by the same roads of shared opinions.

Do you dare laugh at us because we venerate and cultivate the Father and Lord of things and because we hand over and entrust our hopes to him? What of your Plato in the Theaetetus — to name him especially — does he not urge the mind to flee from the earth and, as far as can be done, always to dwell in thought and mind around that one? Do you dare laugh at us because we say a resurrection of the dead is to come — which we confess we say, but which is heard by you otherwise than we mean? What in the Politicus of the same Plato — does he not write that when the world has begun to rise from the western parts and to turn toward the hinge of the rising sun, humans will burst again from earth’s bosom as grey decrepit old men, and when the years begin to grow longer they will go down by the same steps by which growth happens today unto the cradles of infancy?

Do you dare laugh at us because we provide for the salvation of our souls — that is, for ourselves? For what are we humans if not souls shut in bodies? Do you yourselves not all take cares for their safety? Is it not fear that holds you — when you abstain from all vices and desires — lest you stick to bodies as if fixed by beam-nails? What do those rites of secret arts mean, by which you address I know not what powers so they may be gentle to you and not set obstacles of hindrance when you return to the ancestral seats?

Latin

13.1. Interea tamen o isti, qui admiramini, qui stupetis doctorum et philosophiae scita, ita non iniustissimum ducitis inequitare, inludere tamquam stulta nobis et bruta dicentibus, cum vel ea vel talia repperiamini et vos dicere quae nobis dici pronuntiari que ridetis? 2. Nec mihi cum his sermo est qui per varia sectarum deverticula dissipati has atque illas partes opinionum diversitate fecerunt: vos, vos appello qui Mercurium, qui Platonem Pythagoram que sectamini, vosque ceteros, qui estis unius mentis et per easdam vias placitorum inceditis unitate.

3. Audetis ridere nos, quod patrem rerum ac dominum veneramur et colimus quodque illi dedamus et permittamus spes nostras? 4. Quid Plato vester in Theaeteto [Plat. Theaet. 173 e], ut eum potissimum nominem, nonne animo fugere suadet e terris et circa illum semper quantum fieri potis est cogitatione ac mente versari? 5. Audetis ridere nos, quod mortuorum dicamus resurrectionem futuram, quam quidem nos dicere confitemur sed a vobis aliter quam sentiamus audiri? 6. Quid in Politico idem Plato? [Pl. Polit. 270 d] nonne cum mundus occeperit ab occiduis partibus exoriri et in cardinem vergere qui orientis est solis, rursus erupturos homines telluris e gremio scribit senes canos decrepitos et cum anni coeperint accedere longiores per eosdem gradus quibus hodic crescitur ad incunabula infantiae desituros?

7. Audetis ridere nos, quod animarum nostrarum provideamus saluti id est ipsi nobis? quid enim sumus homines nisi animae corporibus clausae? Vos enim non omnes pro illarum geritis incolumitatibus curas? non quod vitiis omnibus et cupiditatibus abstinetis, metus ille vos habet ne velut trabalibus clavis adfici corporibus haereatis? 8. Quid illi sibi volunt secretarum artium ritus, quibus adfamini nescio quas potestates, ut sint vobis placidae neque ad sedes remeantibus patrias obstacula impeditionis opponant?

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